The firehose-of-shit, accuse-them-of-what-we-do strategy pioneered by Joseph Goebbels and employed by Steve Bannon, by Donald Trump, by Stephen Miller, by Speaker Mike Johnson, by Elon Musk, has, I think, the same aim. By appropriating the very words we need to articulate their crimes, the MAGA are trying to make it impossible for us to call them out. They have linguistically neutered our denunciations. They call Hillary Clinton a pedophile, which is a vile lie; but it has the affect of making the word pedophile meaningless, so when an actual pedophile comes along, and is almost invariably a MAGA Republican, the label has all the power of “I know you are but what am I.” We can’t call what Trump did with the Russians collusion, because he has blown that word apart. Any honest attempt to audit the election results will necessitate the use of terms like rigging and cheating and stolen, and the Trumpists have used them so much as to drain them of all literality. And, sadly, we have compared so many people to Hitler, and spoken so often of Nazis, that Trump’s own, very real Hitlerian tendencies are largely ignored by the press, and real Nazis have come from Germany to kiss the ring at Mar-a-Lago with impunity.
Do you get that? The word genocide is thrown around so much that is meaningless. Especially when it is not the the official policy of Israel, but it is the official policy of Putin, but I don’t see anyone talking about the Ukrainian Genocide, much less the Saudi and UAE backed Genocide in Sudan.
I don't care what Israel likes or doesn't like John. I have a mile long bitch list with the Israeli Right, Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, all of them. The point is that indiscriminate use of a scare word, robs it of it's effect.
I couldn’t agree with you more. When I see movies and TV programmes in which the characters say “fuck” in every sentence, I wonder why it didn’t occur to anyone that wanton repetition neutralizes the word. But genocide is exactly the word to describe what the Israelis seem to be attempting against the Palestinians.
Apparently genocide is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.
Israel would say that it is only trying to secure the safety and future of it's people,by eradicating a ruthless terrorist organization. Cowards that hide behind women and children, that use hospitals and humanitarian organizations as human shields. And they are correct.
Lots of condemnation of the Jews, but virtually none of the murderers and rapists..
You see the goal, nay the religious obligation of Islam is the annihilation of the Jews It says so clearly in the 1988, never repudiated, HAMAS covenant
in the preamble and paragraph 7
Paragraph 7 also quotes sacred islamic Text namely Sahih 1295/1296, book 56, hadith 139 al Bukhari as follows "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
The Day of Judgement is what Christians call the end times, it is when al Lihah will judge the living and the dead.
The situation is further compounded by the belief in Islam, that was the flag of Muhammad flies over a region, it is forever Muslim and the infidel, the interloper must be expelled.
On top of that there are three sacred sites in Islam, so sacred that it is blasphemous and haram (forbidden) that an infidel tread on them,
Meccca, where Muhammad was born, Medina where he died and Jerusalem where he ascended into the seven layers of heaven to meet al Lihah and negotiate for prayers.
In the Quran Muhammad was picked up one night in Mecca, by a chimera of a beast, body of a horse, head of woman and wings of an eagle, and flown to Jerusalem where it launched it self into the heavens from a rock, which bears the imprint of it's foot or hoof, a shrine was built around it and Muslims call it Haram al Sharif (Haram also means sacred, just as Kosher means sacred, sacred thus forbidden except on special worshipful occasions)
Haram al Sharif is what we call Dome of the Rock and accompanying it is the equally sacred Al Aqsa Mosque.Kufrs,kaffirs, infidels are forbidden
John there will be and can be no peace in the mid east, between Jew and Muslim, until both reform themselves. Islam cannot reform itself, to even do so is apostasy, and the various Islamic sects that have spun off are rejected as apostates, by Shia and Sunni Islam, and are thus persecuted, even unto death.
And what would you do if someone invaded your home, slaughtered your family and carried them back as hostages to use as human shields.
What would you do John? Don't be so quick to judge.
In case you think I am an Isareli apologist, think twice. the orthodox Jews that are the settlers and Netanyahu's power base are world class criminals, war criminals. These Ultra Zionists are no different from the Muslims that they hate
Watch if you can We will dance again, a Documentary exclusively made of videos from Islamic terrorist and Jewish victims on Oct 7th, the terrorists running around celebrating, chasing and slaughtering Jews yelling Allahu Akhbar.
Yes the Jews have killed Gazans, but not yelling gpd be praised, and only because the cowards of HAMAS haid behind them as human shields.
The cowards are doing the same thing in Lebanon, and there they hug the UN outposts, using them as human shields.
So what to do John, give up, surrender, commit suicide, What are the Jews of Israel to do, to satisfy the Muslims who consider them interlopers, commit suicide migrate to America and Europe? Imagine that, 10 million pissed off Jews migrating to America and Europe
John I wish to add to the above diatribe, that from what I know, until Israel was taken over by the religious right (sound familiar) of the Likkud and the orthodox right and Netanyahu, Israel was a liberal democracy, with equal rights for all, Muslim, Christian, Duze, Arab, white, black. There was of course the usual discrimination against Ethiopian and non white Jews. I don't think that there is any cure for racial discrimination.
But at least the IDF wasn't standing by or even helping the orthodox settlers,shoot and dispossess the Arabs.
And it is not the problem of Islamic religious belief and radicalism, there is the problem of radical Zionism
If one believes, as I do, that the Jews are entitled to their own ethnostate (after all there are 57 Muslim Ethnostates,and 11 Arab ethnostates., then one is a Zionist.
A radical Zionist is one who subscribes to the symbology of the Israeli
Flag. Despite what wikipedia says, the original intent of the flag was the blue stripe at the top was the Nile, the blue stripe at the bottom was the Euphrates and the the Star of David was Israel in between.
The Jews who believe in radical Zionism are every bit as culpable as Muslims who believe that the Jews are vampiric spawns of Shaytan, and are defiling sacred Arab soil.
And so long as there are those on either side with opinions like that, there will be no peace in the Middle East.
Children in Palestine read comic books that depict Jews as blood sucking vampires. Kids in Israel read comic books that depict Arabs as blood thirsty terrorists.
Does anyone think that there is a chance for all to live in peace and respect for the rights of others, with kids brought up like that?
The Tarantula Antidefamation League strongly objects to any association with that thing you call Miller. We suggest you hire our friends, the pigeons, to drop calling cards on happy boy's head and shoulders at the moment of his inauguration. White splats should show up nicely in photos.
you had me until you used the word genocide.
Why” Let me quote Greg Olear https://gregolear.substack.com/p/sunday-pages-inside-the-whale
The firehose-of-shit, accuse-them-of-what-we-do strategy pioneered by Joseph Goebbels and employed by Steve Bannon, by Donald Trump, by Stephen Miller, by Speaker Mike Johnson, by Elon Musk, has, I think, the same aim. By appropriating the very words we need to articulate their crimes, the MAGA are trying to make it impossible for us to call them out. They have linguistically neutered our denunciations. They call Hillary Clinton a pedophile, which is a vile lie; but it has the affect of making the word pedophile meaningless, so when an actual pedophile comes along, and is almost invariably a MAGA Republican, the label has all the power of “I know you are but what am I.” We can’t call what Trump did with the Russians collusion, because he has blown that word apart. Any honest attempt to audit the election results will necessitate the use of terms like rigging and cheating and stolen, and the Trumpists have used them so much as to drain them of all literality. And, sadly, we have compared so many people to Hitler, and spoken so often of Nazis, that Trump’s own, very real Hitlerian tendencies are largely ignored by the press, and real Nazis have come from Germany to kiss the ring at Mar-a-Lago with impunity.
Do you get that? The word genocide is thrown around so much that is meaningless. Especially when it is not the the official policy of Israel, but it is the official policy of Putin, but I don’t see anyone talking about the Ukrainian Genocide, much less the Saudi and UAE backed Genocide in Sudan.
I’ll stand by my use of the word genocide, whether Israel admits to it or not.
I don't care what Israel likes or doesn't like John. I have a mile long bitch list with the Israeli Right, Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, all of them. The point is that indiscriminate use of a scare word, robs it of it's effect.
An extension of Godwins' law.
I couldn’t agree with you more. When I see movies and TV programmes in which the characters say “fuck” in every sentence, I wonder why it didn’t occur to anyone that wanton repetition neutralizes the word. But genocide is exactly the word to describe what the Israelis seem to be attempting against the Palestinians.
Apparently genocide is like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.
Israel would say that it is only trying to secure the safety and future of it's people,by eradicating a ruthless terrorist organization. Cowards that hide behind women and children, that use hospitals and humanitarian organizations as human shields. And they are correct.
Lots of condemnation of the Jews, but virtually none of the murderers and rapists..
You see the goal, nay the religious obligation of Islam is the annihilation of the Jews It says so clearly in the 1988, never repudiated, HAMAS covenant
in the preamble and paragraph 7
Paragraph 7 also quotes sacred islamic Text namely Sahih 1295/1296, book 56, hadith 139 al Bukhari as follows "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
The Day of Judgement is what Christians call the end times, it is when al Lihah will judge the living and the dead.
The situation is further compounded by the belief in Islam, that was the flag of Muhammad flies over a region, it is forever Muslim and the infidel, the interloper must be expelled.
On top of that there are three sacred sites in Islam, so sacred that it is blasphemous and haram (forbidden) that an infidel tread on them,
Meccca, where Muhammad was born, Medina where he died and Jerusalem where he ascended into the seven layers of heaven to meet al Lihah and negotiate for prayers.
In the Quran Muhammad was picked up one night in Mecca, by a chimera of a beast, body of a horse, head of woman and wings of an eagle, and flown to Jerusalem where it launched it self into the heavens from a rock, which bears the imprint of it's foot or hoof, a shrine was built around it and Muslims call it Haram al Sharif (Haram also means sacred, just as Kosher means sacred, sacred thus forbidden except on special worshipful occasions)
Haram al Sharif is what we call Dome of the Rock and accompanying it is the equally sacred Al Aqsa Mosque.Kufrs,kaffirs, infidels are forbidden
John there will be and can be no peace in the mid east, between Jew and Muslim, until both reform themselves. Islam cannot reform itself, to even do so is apostasy, and the various Islamic sects that have spun off are rejected as apostates, by Shia and Sunni Islam, and are thus persecuted, even unto death.
And what would you do if someone invaded your home, slaughtered your family and carried them back as hostages to use as human shields.
What would you do John? Don't be so quick to judge.
In case you think I am an Isareli apologist, think twice. the orthodox Jews that are the settlers and Netanyahu's power base are world class criminals, war criminals. These Ultra Zionists are no different from the Muslims that they hate
Watch if you can We will dance again, a Documentary exclusively made of videos from Islamic terrorist and Jewish victims on Oct 7th, the terrorists running around celebrating, chasing and slaughtering Jews yelling Allahu Akhbar.
Yes the Jews have killed Gazans, but not yelling gpd be praised, and only because the cowards of HAMAS haid behind them as human shields.
The cowards are doing the same thing in Lebanon, and there they hug the UN outposts, using them as human shields.
So what to do John, give up, surrender, commit suicide, What are the Jews of Israel to do, to satisfy the Muslims who consider them interlopers, commit suicide migrate to America and Europe? Imagine that, 10 million pissed off Jews migrating to America and Europe
John I wish to add to the above diatribe, that from what I know, until Israel was taken over by the religious right (sound familiar) of the Likkud and the orthodox right and Netanyahu, Israel was a liberal democracy, with equal rights for all, Muslim, Christian, Duze, Arab, white, black. There was of course the usual discrimination against Ethiopian and non white Jews. I don't think that there is any cure for racial discrimination.
But at least the IDF wasn't standing by or even helping the orthodox settlers,shoot and dispossess the Arabs.
And it is not the problem of Islamic religious belief and radicalism, there is the problem of radical Zionism
If one believes, as I do, that the Jews are entitled to their own ethnostate (after all there are 57 Muslim Ethnostates,and 11 Arab ethnostates., then one is a Zionist.
A radical Zionist is one who subscribes to the symbology of the Israeli
Flag. Despite what wikipedia says, the original intent of the flag was the blue stripe at the top was the Nile, the blue stripe at the bottom was the Euphrates and the the Star of David was Israel in between.
The Jews who believe in radical Zionism are every bit as culpable as Muslims who believe that the Jews are vampiric spawns of Shaytan, and are defiling sacred Arab soil.
And so long as there are those on either side with opinions like that, there will be no peace in the Middle East.
Children in Palestine read comic books that depict Jews as blood sucking vampires. Kids in Israel read comic books that depict Arabs as blood thirsty terrorists.
Does anyone think that there is a chance for all to live in peace and respect for the rights of others, with kids brought up like that?
The Tarantula Antidefamation League strongly objects to any association with that thing you call Miller. We suggest you hire our friends, the pigeons, to drop calling cards on happy boy's head and shoulders at the moment of his inauguration. White splats should show up nicely in photos.